The Debate on the All-Green Book on Betfair (part 1)

Last week I talked about the fear of being all red on Betfair and I want follow that up by delving into what every trader wants and all green book.

To me: there is a lot of one-upmanship surrounding what type of green-book you should have when you have decided to close your position.

In truth: there is no right or wrong answer to the question, because as a trader your risk v reward calculations should always be within your comfort zone.

Just because ‘Jack’ is leaving himself liabilities on a short priced favourite because he fancies it to get beat, it doesn’t mean you have to!

I work to two rules if I dont have a strong opinion on the outcome of a match:

Rule 1: Do I know which direction the market is moving?

  • If Yes: Leave profits on the market that is moving in my favour.
  • If No: See Rule #2

Rule 2: Always green-up if you have no strong opinion on the outcome or know which direction the market is moving.

A common mistake traders make after they have green-up there position is thinking that their work is done on the market, this is far from the truth.

What you still need to know if activating rule 2?

The first thing they need to find out for future reference is which way the market did eventually move, should they have closed their position on the outcome thats likely or least likely to happen. Did I close too early or too late and missed the optimum price etc.

Lets look potential outcomes on a tennis match.

Example: Say you was watching a tennis match and having watched the first couple of games you fancied the favourite to break the serve of the outsider, the favourite is available at 1.50 on Betfair and you place £200 as your opening position.

They break in game 5 and the odds drop to 1.25, the immediate response by novice traders is green book and will close out for equal profits.

Let go back to Rule 1; we have an idea of the which direction the market is going to move, if the favourite holds serve the price will move in further, if he gets broken back it will move out to just over 1.50. (lets be generous and say 1.60)

An equal green book would see you win £40 before commission on both players. If you square off your liabilities on the outsider, then your green book would read £50 on the favourite and zero on the outsider.

If you did that and favourite was broken back next game and you greened up your position at 1.60, you would probably have a green book of something like £32 on the favourite and £30 on the outsider.

If the favourite holds serve in the next game then the price will probably drop to 1.18, you could squeeze another £2.80 profit on the favouite (£42.80) by reducing your liabilities on the outsider to zero on the break and greening-up if the favourite holds his serve.

Deciding what to do: Like I said at the begining of this post, there is no right or wrong when closing to make a green book, its down to what you feel comfortable with.

As a trader these are the sort of questions you’ll be asking yourself, if you find all this too taxing, there is no harm in just taking an equal green book. You just wont be as profitable as somebody who does!

Part 2

I will crank the thought process up a notch or two of what options are available  if you have a strong opinion on what may happen next!

Why losing trades are common place

In follow up to my blog post yesterday “The fear of being all red on Betfair” I want to explain why losing trades are common place when you trade.

Even today as a professional trader I still make mistakes, make the wrong call about the markets, but what I do know is that I make more right trading decisions than wrong ones.

A common mistake novice traders make is simply trying not to make a mistake in the first place.  Sport is un-predictable at the best of times, you can do all the research in the world, it wont help you one bit when the un-expected happens.

It’s perfectly normal to lose although you have to ensure that our losses are to scale with our trading bank.

Peter Steidlmayer, a well-known trader and stock market analyst, has made a nice analogy between trading and golf.

Golf players and spectators are familiar with the phenomenon of the golfer who is unbeatable from tee to green but falls to pieces when it comes to putting. What happens is that on the green, the golfer is consumed by fear of failure.

Steidlmayer analysed the great golfer Jack Nicklaus, whom he holds up as a model for all traders:-

  • Firstly, Nicklaus was selective about the number of tournaments he played in.
  • Secondly, he prepared himself for each one so that he was not mentally worn out.
  • Thirdly, he didn’t shoot a 64 and then a 78. Instead, he tended to shoot 70, 69, 71… he played within his capabilities.
  • Fourthly, he didn’t try to kill each shot because he knew it was consistency that counted.
  • Finally, unlike most traders, he didn’t try to predict where his shot was going to land. He didn’t care where it landed because wherever it went, he knew he could handle it. He didn’t worry about it… he had the confidence that he could handle the situation, no matter what happened.

So the next time you beat yourself up about a losing trade, lose confidence in your methods, take a step back and think of the bigger picture. It just might be ‘one of those days!’

Its how you do over a period of time that matters the most.

The fear of being all red on Betfair!

If you read the salescopy of endless clickbank systems on the market, telling you how easy it is to get a green book on Betfair. A Green book (also known as greening-up) is phrase used when your guaranteed to make a profit on all outcomes.

These get rich systems lead novice traders into false sense of secruity of how easy it is to make money on the betting exchanges.

I love lines like you can trade with a bank as little as £50, the harsh reality is that you cant and certainly wont make any long terms profits from doing so.

When any trader plays with such small numbers, its hard to take the gambler out of the trader.

They back a horse at 2.70 with the whole bank (£50),  thinking it will shorten only to see it drift to 3.00, then they wait open in the market in the hope it returns only to see it drift further. They may even let it go in-running, its fancied afterall and will trade shorter in-running and they can take a profit.

You know the story, the horse runs like a pig and your whole stakes gone in flash,  your left with that sour feeling of what went wrong.

This is a classic case of fearing being all red on Betfair (red refers to a guaranteed loss on all outcomes). An experience trader would have taken his loss (in this case 10% of the opening stake – £5).

This is a common flaw in many novice traders and fearing the red book leads them to trade purely on emotions

Greed and untruths are the sins here. It is not being greedy if the market presents you with a bigger opportunity than first thought; it is being greedy if you try to play up winnings using emotions rather than your head.

Be truthful to yourself, all gamblers and traders have the potential to make a living from betting or trading but their emotions stop them from achieving this. How we react when we make a bad bet or trade is the key.

The difference between a professional and the amateur is not necessarily the ability to analyse a race, it is how they handle the emotion of a bad trade or a sustained losing period.

Could you trade Betfair effectively using Twitter?

spamFor a while I have been thinking of the best way to use Twitter and it suddenly came to me the other day when viewing through tweets via Tweetdeck, the number of spammers I was following.

This is not what I want!

I am not interested in making £1,000′s using twitter or gaining a free hundred extra followers overnight. What made the penny drop was the number of DM’s I was getting that were clearly being delivered automatically, offering me some free report that I wasn’t interested in.

You can also tell the ones using software as they deliver tweets in batches all with different links to various offers. I dont follow these people anymore!

What I want to use Twitter for

To engage in conversations and share opinions with fellow punters on sporting events, whether its one-ways positions (back/lay) or trading if you got a passion for sport then I am interested in what you have to say.

Professional Trading can be a lonely business at the best of times, but I firmly believe twitter was invented for us to share our thoughts with people who are interested in the same subject as I am.

Now I dont know if you could trade Betfair effectively using Twitter, but in the future I going to use Twitter for what it was meant to be before going mainstream and thats a place for people to hangout and share interests.

Yes; I will send the odd tweet highlighting a new blog post, but in the main I will use twitter to share my thoughts and views on how I see my life as a Betfair Trader.

You can follow me http://twitter.com/mattfinnigan